And this is the "intellectual" face of the modern Republican party
Ryan: ‘I just don’t understand’ what ‘horses and bayonets’ means | The Raw Story
Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says that he can’t figure out what President Barack Obama meant when he mocked Mitt Romney’s complaint about the Navy’s smaller fleet of ships by sayin…
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+Swine Cog how does it not make sense? It's basically just the equivalent of saying we have less horses and buggies on the road, if he were talking about the automotive industry instead of the navy. Makes perfect sense to me that as times change certain technologies go by the wayside.
+Swine Cog how does it not make sense? It's basically just the equivalent of saying we have less horses and buggies on the road, if he were talking about the automotive industry instead of the navy. Makes perfect sense to me that as times change certain technologies go by the wayside.
+Melina M No it's not. Using your "new technology" argument:
Horses and Buggies = Cars.
We actually have more cars, than we had Horses and Buggies.
The Navy wants/needs more ships. Obama/Biden don't think so. The bayonet/horses argument is dumb because the military a) still uses bayonets and b) has used horses in afghanistan.
Even military tech it doesn't make sense; because they had the equipment they needed back then, and Romney wants to make sure they have the equipment they need now. He's not talking about "counting ships" to count ships. He's counting ships in terms of what THE NAVY has asked for.
+Melina M No it's not. Using your "new technology" argument:
Horses and Buggies = Cars.
We actually have more cars, than we had Horses and Buggies.
The Navy wants/needs more ships. Obama/Biden don't think so. The bayonet/horses argument is dumb because the military a) still uses bayonets and b) has used horses in afghanistan.
Even military tech it doesn't make sense; because they had the equipment they needed back then, and Romney wants to make sure they have the equipment they need now. He's not talking about "counting ships" to count ships. He's counting ships in terms of what THE NAVY has asked for.
Talk about grasping at straws. The line was obvious to all but people who dont want to accept it was a killer line. So just in case you dont get it
The number of ships is not as relevent as the capability of the fleet.
Just as the number of bayonettes and horses does not dictate the capability of the infantry.
Talk about grasping at straws. The line was obvious to all but people who dont want to accept it was a killer line. So just in case you dont get it
The number of ships is not as relevent as the capability of the fleet.
Just as the number of bayonettes and horses does not dictate the capability of the infantry.
+Gary Pearson Romneys point wasn't about the capability of the fleet. It was about the size of the fleet being able to be in two theaters at once (the Obama administration says only 1 is needed).
+Gary Pearson Romneys point wasn't about the capability of the fleet. It was about the size of the fleet being able to be in two theaters at once (the Obama administration says only 1 is needed).
+Swine Cog If thats what you want to believe. You win.
Having said that, not much point in having any ships if you do not know which countries have coastal borders.
+Swine Cog If thats what you want to believe. You win.
Having said that, not much point in having any ships if you do not know which countries have coastal borders.
I sort of thought the follow up comment about having more nuclear submarines was relevant. I'm fine with reducing the number of ships and increasing the number of subs and ending up with a net gain in naval power.
I sort of thought the follow up comment about having more nuclear submarines was relevant. I'm fine with reducing the number of ships and increasing the number of subs and ending up with a net gain in naval power.
+Gary Pearson I'd rather have that then a President that thinks we have 57 States.
LOL GAFFES!
+Gary Pearson I'd rather have that then a President that thinks we have 57 States.
LOL GAFFES!