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  • Corporations are hoarding money.  They're doing the same amount of work with fewer people, ergo lower overhead.

    IOW…  Duh, WINNING!

  • Corporations are hoarding money.  They're doing the same amount of work with fewer people, ergo lower overhead.

    IOW…  Duh, WINNING!

  • May seem like a silly question, but how many jobs do the poor and main stream workers create?

  • May seem like a silly question, but how many jobs do the poor and main stream workers create?

  • It's not all about "creating" jobs, someone actually has to do/make something.  This is typically what the "poor" and main stream (sic) workers do.

    Most job 'creation' has merely been relocation, to very low-cost markets overseas.  This will change, though it will take time.

  • It's not all about "creating" jobs, someone actually has to do/make something.  This is typically what the "poor" and main stream (sic) workers do.

    Most job 'creation' has merely been relocation, to very low-cost markets overseas.  This will change, though it will take time.

  • +Mike Potratz lower and middle income people "create" jobs through demand for products and services. If they have money to spend on anything beyond housing and food, that gets fed back into the larger economy and hopefully generates some jobs, preferably in America.

  • +Mike Potratz lower and middle income people "create" jobs through demand for products and services. If they have money to spend on anything beyond housing and food, that gets fed back into the larger economy and hopefully generates some jobs, preferably in America.

  • And who makes these products and services?  Who pays the lower and middle income people wages?  Business sell services or products because there is a demand.  But, if lower/middle class "demanded" something, nothing happens unless there is someone to meet that demand.  So the question is:  Who meets the demand?  In this situation the lower and middle class citizens (me included) are consumers, not producers.  You can put a million people together to "demand" they want widgets.  But, if I could make widgets, but not at a profit, why would I?  Businesses are not in 'the business' to lose money.  If people think a business makes too much money, just stop buying from them!  Profits shrink, they go out of business.  Prime example is Apple.  They control their supply chain and prices and make the highest profit margin per device of any company but they are the darling of the business world.  Ever heard of anyone protesting Apple's obscene profit margins?  Nope, they are praised for being a hugely successful company.

  • And who makes these products and services?  Who pays the lower and middle income people wages?  Business sell services or products because there is a demand.  But, if lower/middle class "demanded" something, nothing happens unless there is someone to meet that demand.  So the question is:  Who meets the demand?  In this situation the lower and middle class citizens (me included) are consumers, not producers.  You can put a million people together to "demand" they want widgets.  But, if I could make widgets, but not at a profit, why would I?  Businesses are not in 'the business' to lose money.  If people think a business makes too much money, just stop buying from them!  Profits shrink, they go out of business.  Prime example is Apple.  They control their supply chain and prices and make the highest profit margin per device of any company but they are the darling of the business world.  Ever heard of anyone protesting Apple's obscene profit margins?  Nope, they are praised for being a hugely successful company.

  • Ever heard of anyone protesting Apple's obscene profit margins?

    Yep.  I've done it, and I've heard others do it, though it's difficult to find.

    +Sam Abuelsamid, I have a feeling we're about to enter a semantics argument with someone who has no intention of learning anything or changing their mind.

    i.e., your average politician (or voter)

    Corporations exist for one reason, and one reason only…to generate profit.  Fine, but most fail to accept corporations are inanimate entities, and the people who run them, could not care less about any costs other monetary ones.

  • Ever heard of anyone protesting Apple's obscene profit margins?

    Yep.  I've done it, and I've heard others do it, though it's difficult to find.

    +Sam Abuelsamid, I have a feeling we're about to enter a semantics argument with someone who has no intention of learning anything or changing their mind.

    i.e., your average politician (or voter)

    Corporations exist for one reason, and one reason only…to generate profit.  Fine, but most fail to accept corporations are inanimate entities, and the people who run them, could not care less about any costs other monetary ones.

  • +Mike Potratz Completely agree.

    I think the reason that people want separate companies (calling some bad while praising others) is that it depends on how much prestige they gain from being their consumer. An iPhone user will be very proud of the devices he has and how they interconnect with each other.

    In the end every well known brand actually charges as much as possible for their product, regardless of the costs of the product.

    As somebody else said, I don't think corporation spend as much as they should in other areas.

    Also, I don't think this "I don't have a job, I need to elect a president to provide me with one" is a sane thought. If you can't get a job it probably means you are inadequate to work for that job. I can't really say that people capable to learn and do new things are jobless. The same thing happened during the industrial revolution, when automation in factories left thousands unemployed overnight. 

    People need to learn to adapt, even to harsh job conditions. 

  • +Mike Potratz Completely agree.

    I think the reason that people want separate companies (calling some bad while praising others) is that it depends on how much prestige they gain from being their consumer. An iPhone user will be very proud of the devices he has and how they interconnect with each other.

    In the end every well known brand actually charges as much as possible for their product, regardless of the costs of the product.

    As somebody else said, I don't think corporation spend as much as they should in other areas.

    Also, I don't think this "I don't have a job, I need to elect a president to provide me with one" is a sane thought. If you can't get a job it probably means you are inadequate to work for that job. I can't really say that people capable to learn and do new things are jobless. The same thing happened during the industrial revolution, when automation in factories left thousands unemployed overnight. 

    People need to learn to adapt, even to harsh job conditions.

  • +Kelly Bradley And " I have a feeling we're about to enter a semantics argument with someone who has no intention of learning anything or changing their mind." is coming from the belief that only one person in a discussion can learn anything…

  • +Kelly Bradley And " I have a feeling we're about to enter a semantics argument with someone who has no intention of learning anything or changing their mind." is coming from the belief that only one person in a discussion can learn anything…

  • No, +Mike Potratz, it isn't.

    It's coming from someone who has heard your argument, and has enough formal education and experience in the field to dismiss your 'logic'.

  • No, +Mike Potratz, it isn't.

    It's coming from someone who has heard your argument, and has enough formal education and experience in the field to dismiss your 'logic'.

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